Guest The Doctor Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan before going into GUI mode? I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest Bob I Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence Try the Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/08/28/microsoft-windows-malicious-software-removal-tool-kb890830-and-update-free-download/ http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AD724AE0-E72D-4F54-9AB3-75B8EB148356&displaylang=en&displaylang=en The Doctor wrote: > Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan > before going into GUI mode? > > I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it > I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR!
Guest The Doctor Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence In article <O9aZuOkxIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote: >Try the Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool > >http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/08/28/microsoft-windows-malicious-software-removal-tool-kb890830-and-update-free-download/ >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AD724AE0-E72D-4F54-9AB3-75B8EB148356&displaylang=en&displaylang=en > >The Doctor wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >> before going into GUI mode? >> >> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! > This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the anti-virus/anti-malware has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest Sid Elbow Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence The Doctor wrote: >>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>> before going into GUI mode? >>> >>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! > > This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the anti-virus/anti-malware > has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode > like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of Windows?
Guest The Doctor Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >The Doctor wrote: > >>>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>> before going into GUI mode? >>>> >>>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >> >> This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the anti-virus/anti-malware >> has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >> like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. > >Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of >Windows? Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest DL Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence So far I've not found any malaware / trojans that I was not able to remove once the PC was booted, in the gui. What is the name of this suspect? "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:g271si$i1v$23@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, > Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>The Doctor wrote: >> >>>>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>>> before going into GUI mode? >>>>> >>>>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >>> >>> This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the >>> anti-virus/anti-malware >>> has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >>> like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. >> >>Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of >>Windows? > > Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest Sid Elbow Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence The Doctor wrote: >> Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of >> Windows? > > Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? No I'm not familiar with it. I know that some AV's do this and I was really asking the question about AVG.
Guest The Doctor Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence In article <#e1BQnpxIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> wrote: >So far I've not found any malaware / trojans that I was not able to remove >once the PC was booted, in the gui. >What is the name of this suspect? > >"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >news:g271si$i1v$23@gallifrey.nk.ca... >> In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, >> Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>>The Doctor wrote: >>> >>>>>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>>>> before going into GUI mode? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>>>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >>>> >>>> This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the >>>> anti-virus/anti-malware >>>> has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >>>> like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. >>> >>>Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of >>>Windows? >> >> Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? >> -- >> Member - Liberal International >> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! > > Virut. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest DL Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-051402-1930-99 http://www.grisoft.com/ww.virbase?nam=Win32%2FVirut "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:g27loc$dtf$17@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <#e1BQnpxIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> > wrote: >>So far I've not found any malaware / trojans that I was not able to remove >>once the PC was booted, in the gui. >>What is the name of this suspect? >> >>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >>news:g271si$i1v$23@gallifrey.nk.ca... >>> In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, >>> Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>>>The Doctor wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>>>>> before going into GUI mode? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>>>>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >>>>> >>>>> This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the >>>>> anti-virus/anti-malware >>>>> has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >>>>> like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. >>>> >>>>Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of >>>>Windows? >>> >>> Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? >>> -- >>> Member - Liberal International >>> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >>> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >>> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! >> >> > > Virut. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest Bob I Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence The Doctor wrote: > In article <#e1BQnpxIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> wrote: > >>So far I've not found any malaware / trojans that I was not able to remove >>once the PC was booted, in the gui. >>What is the name of this suspect? >> >>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >>news:g271si$i1v$23@gallifrey.nk.ca... >> >>>In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, >>>Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>> >>>>The Doctor wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>>>>>before going into GUI mode? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>>>>>I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >>>>> >>>>>This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the >>>>>anti-virus/anti-malware >>>>>has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >>>>>like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. >>>> >>>>Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of >>>>Windows? >>> >>>Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? >>>-- >>>Member - Liberal International >>>This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >>>God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >>>USA petition for dissolution of your nation! >> >> > > Virut. That is one of the listings in the link I provided for the Malware removal tool.
Guest The Doctor Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence In article <ey9GertxIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> wrote: >http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-051402-1930-99 > >http://www.grisoft.com/ww.virbase?nam=Win32%2FVirut > > >"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >news:g27loc$dtf$17@gallifrey.nk.ca... >> In article <#e1BQnpxIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> >> wrote: >>>So far I've not found any malaware / trojans that I was not able to remove >>>once the PC was booted, in the gui. >>>What is the name of this suspect? >>> >>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >>>news:g271si$i1v$23@gallifrey.nk.ca... >>>> In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, >>>> Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>>>>The Doctor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>>>>>> before going into GUI mode? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>>>>>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >>>>>> >>>>>> This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the >>>>>> anti-virus/anti-malware >>>>>> has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >>>>>> like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. >>>>> >>>>>Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently of >>>>>Windows? >>>> >>>> Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? >>>> -- >>>> Member - Liberal International >>>> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >>>> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >>>> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! >>> >>> >> >> Virut. >> -- >> Member - Liberal International >> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! > > I know. The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering into GUI mode / safe mode. This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself when in GUI mode. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence The Doctor wrote: > The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering > into GUI mode / safe mode. > > This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself > when in GUI mode. Did you try removing it from Safe-Mode? To run before the Session Manager starts to load Windows the AV would be launched from the BootExecute registry value. If your AV software package is capable of running scans before Windows boots it would have an option to do so, you would enable this from within the AV program. Otherwise many AV programs can run from an MS-DOS session, or in a PE environment like Bart's PE boot disc or a custum PE from the AV vendor. If still no joy mount the disk as a data disk in another Windows 2000/XP machine or USB enclosure and have a go at it while Windows is anesthetized. John
Guest DL Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence The symantec KB tells you how to manually remove "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:g28nc3$1q1$20@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <ey9GertxIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> > wrote: >>http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-051402-1930-99 >> >>http://www.grisoft.com/ww.virbase?nam=Win32%2FVirut >> >> >>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >>news:g27loc$dtf$17@gallifrey.nk.ca... >>> In article <#e1BQnpxIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> >>> wrote: >>>>So far I've not found any malaware / trojans that I was not able to >>>>remove >>>>once the PC was booted, in the gui. >>>>What is the name of this suspect? >>>> >>>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >>>>news:g271si$i1v$23@gallifrey.nk.ca... >>>>> In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, >>>>> Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>>>>>The Doctor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>>>>>>> before going into GUI mode? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>>>>>>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the >>>>>>> anti-virus/anti-malware >>>>>>> has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >>>>>>> like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. >>>>>> >>>>>>Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently >>>>>>of >>>>>>Windows? >>>>> >>>>> Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? >>>>> -- >>>>> Member - Liberal International >>>>> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >>>>> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >>>>> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Virut. >>> -- >>> Member - Liberal International >>> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >>> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >>> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! >> >> > > I know. > > The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering > into GUI mode / safe mode. > > This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself > when in GUI mode. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest The Doctor Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence In article <OnSta3wxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, John John (MVP) <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >The Doctor wrote: > >> The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering >> into GUI mode / safe mode. >> >> This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself >> when in GUI mode. > >Did you try removing it from Safe-Mode? To run before the Session >Manager starts to load Windows the AV would be launched from the >BootExecute registry value. If your AV software package is capable of >running scans before Windows boots it would have an option to do so, you >would enable this from within the AV program. Otherwise many AV >programs can run from an MS-DOS session, or in a PE environment like >Bart's PE boot disc or a custum PE from the AV vendor. If still no joy >mount the disk as a data disk in another Windows 2000/XP machine or USB >enclosure and have a go at it while Windows is anesthetized. > >John > Yes. Even in safe mode this 'bug' shut downs the system. The ***only*** way to bypass the shut down is to unplug the system from the Power Supply and restart it from there. Question, if you know the 32-bit CLI exec command, how do you launch from the BootExecute registry value. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest The Doctor Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence In article <ehfktdxxIHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> wrote: >The symantec KB tells you how to manually remove > >"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >news:g28nc3$1q1$20@gallifrey.nk.ca... >> In article <ey9GertxIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> >> wrote: >>>http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-051402-1930-99 >>> >>>http://www.grisoft.com/ww.virbase?nam=Win32%2FVirut >>> >>> >>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >>>news:g27loc$dtf$17@gallifrey.nk.ca... >>>> In article <#e1BQnpxIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, DL <address@invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>>>So far I've not found any malaware / trojans that I was not able to >>>>>remove >>>>>once the PC was booted, in the gui. >>>>>What is the name of this suspect? >>>>> >>>>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >>>>>news:g271si$i1v$23@gallifrey.nk.ca... >>>>>> In article <03876e8d$0$18192$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, >>>>>> Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>>>>>>The Doctor wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how to tell Windows to run a thorough AV scan >>>>>>>>>> before going into GUI mode? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a nasty Virut acc AVG and the only way to get rid of it >>>>>>>>>> I suspect is to catch the virus before GUI is entered. GRR! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This will work in GUI! What is needed is that the >>>>>>>> anti-virus/anti-malware >>>>>>>> has to work in the startup sequence **before** going into GUI mode >>>>>>>> like chkdsk. This malware will defeat you in GUI mode. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Don't some AV's allow you to make a boot floppy to scan independently >>>>>>>of >>>>>>>Windows? >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know how to do that with AVG 8.0 Free? >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Member - Liberal International >>>>>> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >>>>>> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >>>>>> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Virut. >>>> -- >>>> Member - Liberal International >>>> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca >>>> God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! >>>> USA petition for dissolution of your nation! >>> >>> >> >> I know. >> >> The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering >> into GUI mode / safe mode. >> >> This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself >> when in GUI mode. >> -- From http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-051402-1930-99&tabid=3 Discovered: May 14, 2006 Updated: February 13, 2007 12:55:21 PM Also Known As: PE_VIRUT.A [Trend Micro] Type: Virus Systems Affected: Windows 2000, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows NT, Windows Server 2003, Windows XP The following instructions pertain to all current and recent Symantec antivirus products, including the Symantec AntiVirus and Norton AntiVirus product lines. 1. Disable System Restore (Windows Me/XP). 2. Update the virus definitions. 3. Run a full system scan. For specific details on each of these steps, read the following instructions. 1. To disable System Restore (Windows Me/XP) If you are running Windows Me or Windows XP, we recommend that you temporarily turn off System Restore. Windows Me/XP uses this feature, which is enabled by default, to restore the files on your computer in case they become damaged. If a virus, worm, or Trojan infects a computer, System Restore may back up the virus, worm, or Trojan on the computer. Windows prevents outside programs, including antivirus programs, from modifying System Restore. Therefore, antivirus programs or tools cannot remove threats in the System Restore folder. As a result, System Restore has the potential of restoring an infected file on your computer, even after you have cleaned the infected files from all the other locations. Also, a virus scan may detect a threat in the System Restore folder even though you have removed the threat. For instructions on how to turn off System Restore, read your Windows documentation, or one of the following articles: * How to disable or enable Windows Me System Restore * How to turn off or turn on Windows XP System Restore Note: When you are completely finished with the removal procedure and are satisfied that the threat has been removed, reenable System Restore by following the instructions in the aforementioned documents. For additional information, and an alternative to disabling Windows Me System Restore, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base article: Antivirus Tools Cannot Clean Infected Files in the _Restore Folder (Article ID: Q263455). 2. To update the virus definitions Symantec Security Response fully tests all the virus definitions for quality assurance before they are posted to our servers. There are two ways to obtain the most recent virus definitions: * Running LiveUpdate, which is the easiest way to obtain virus definitions: o If you use Norton AntiVirus 2006, Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 10.0, or newer products, LiveUpdate definitions are updated daily. These products include newer technology. o If you use Norton AntiVirus 2005, Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9.0, or earlier products, LiveUpdate definitions are updated weekly. The exception is major outbreaks, when definitions are updated more often. * Downloading the definitions using the Intelligent Updater: The Intelligent Updater virus definitions are posted daily. You should download the definitions from the Symantec Security Response Web site and manually install them. To determine whether definitions for this threat are available by the Intelligent Updater, refer to Virus Definitions (Intelligent Updater). The latest Intelligent Updater virus definitions can be obtained here: Intelligent Updater virus definitions. For detailed instructions read the document: How to update virus definition files using the Intelligent Updater. 3. To run a full system scan 1. Start your Symantec antivirus program and make sure that it is configured to scan all the files. * For Norton AntiVirus consumer products: Read the document: How to configure Norton AntiVirus to scan all files. * For Symantec AntiVirus Enterprise products: Read the document: How to verify that a Symantec Corporate antivirus product is set to scan all files. 2. Run a full system scan. 3. If any files are detected, follow the instructions displayed by your antivirus program. Important: If you are unable to start your Symantec antivirus product or the product reports that it cannot delete a detected file, you may need to stop the risk from running in order to remove it. To do this, run the scan in Safe mode. For instructions, read the document, How to start the computer in Safe Mode. Once you have restarted in Safe mode, run the scan again. After the files are deleted, restart the computer in Normal mode and proceed with the next section. Warning messages may be displayed when the computer is restarted, since the threat may not be fully removed at this point. You can ignore these messages and click OK. These messages will not appear when the computer is restarted after the removal instructions have been fully completed. The messages displayed may be similar to the following: Title: [FILE PATH] Message body: Windows cannot find [FILE NAME]. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again. To search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search. Writeup By: Mircea Ciubotariu Technical Details Sounds like you need the GUI **and** SymAV. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! 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Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence The Doctor wrote: > In article <OnSta3wxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, > John John (MVP) <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > >>The Doctor wrote: >> >> >>>The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering >>>into GUI mode / safe mode. >>> >>>This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself >>>when in GUI mode. >> >>Did you try removing it from Safe-Mode? To run before the Session >>Manager starts to load Windows the AV would be launched from the >>BootExecute registry value. If your AV software package is capable of >>running scans before Windows boots it would have an option to do so, you >>would enable this from within the AV program. Otherwise many AV >>programs can run from an MS-DOS session, or in a PE environment like >>Bart's PE boot disc or a custum PE from the AV vendor. If still no joy >>mount the disk as a data disk in another Windows 2000/XP machine or USB >>enclosure and have a go at it while Windows is anesthetized. >> >>John >> > > > Yes. Even in safe mode this 'bug' shut downs the system. > > The ***only*** way to bypass the shut down is to > unplug the system from the Power Supply and > restart it from there. > > Question, if you know the 32-bit CLI exec command, how do you > launch from the BootExecute registry value. The Win32 subsystem isn't running when the Session Manager Subsystem (SMSS) processes commands in the BootExecute registry value, only Native applications can be started in the BootExecute value as only the native NT API is available at that early stage in the boot process. The AV application would have to be a Native application, I don't even know if such an AV product exists, ask your AV vendor. John
Guest The Doctor Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence In article <#KsW8Q2xIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, John John (MVP) <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >The Doctor wrote: > >> In article <OnSta3wxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, >> John John (MVP) <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >> >>>The Doctor wrote: >>> >>> >>>>The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering >>>>into GUI mode / safe mode. >>>> >>>>This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself >>>>when in GUI mode. >>> >>>Did you try removing it from Safe-Mode? To run before the Session >>>Manager starts to load Windows the AV would be launched from the >>>BootExecute registry value. If your AV software package is capable of >>>running scans before Windows boots it would have an option to do so, you >>>would enable this from within the AV program. Otherwise many AV >>>programs can run from an MS-DOS session, or in a PE environment like >>>Bart's PE boot disc or a custum PE from the AV vendor. If still no joy >>>mount the disk as a data disk in another Windows 2000/XP machine or USB >>>enclosure and have a go at it while Windows is anesthetized. >>> >>>John >>> >> >> >> Yes. Even in safe mode this 'bug' shut downs the system. >> >> The ***only*** way to bypass the shut down is to >> unplug the system from the Power Supply and >> restart it from there. >> >> Question, if you know the 32-bit CLI exec command, how do you >> launch from the BootExecute registry value. > >The Win32 subsystem isn't running when the Session Manager Subsystem >(SMSS) processes commands in the BootExecute registry value, only Native >applications can be started in the BootExecute value as only the native >NT API is available at that early stage in the boot process. The AV >application would have to be a Native application, I don't even know if >such an AV product exists, ask your AV vendor. > I will consider I have a native application. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! USA petition for dissolution of your nation!
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Re: How to run an anti-virus in the start-up sequence The Doctor wrote: > In article <#KsW8Q2xIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, > John John (MVP) <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > >>The Doctor wrote: >> >> >>>In article <OnSta3wxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, >>>John John (MVP) <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>The Doctor wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>The question again is how do you remove the virus ***before*** entering >>>>>into GUI mode / safe mode. >>>>> >>>>>This malware is defeating every attempt to remove itself >>>>>when in GUI mode. >>>> >>>>Did you try removing it from Safe-Mode? To run before the Session >>>>Manager starts to load Windows the AV would be launched from the >>>>BootExecute registry value. If your AV software package is capable of >>>>running scans before Windows boots it would have an option to do so, you >>>>would enable this from within the AV program. Otherwise many AV >>>>programs can run from an MS-DOS session, or in a PE environment like >>>>Bart's PE boot disc or a custum PE from the AV vendor. If still no joy >>>>mount the disk as a data disk in another Windows 2000/XP machine or USB >>>>enclosure and have a go at it while Windows is anesthetized. >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>> >>> >>>Yes. Even in safe mode this 'bug' shut downs the system. >>> >>>The ***only*** way to bypass the shut down is to >>>unplug the system from the Power Supply and >>>restart it from there. >>> >>>Question, if you know the 32-bit CLI exec command, how do you >>>launch from the BootExecute registry value. >> >>The Win32 subsystem isn't running when the Session Manager Subsystem >>(SMSS) processes commands in the BootExecute registry value, only Native >>applications can be started in the BootExecute value as only the native >>NT API is available at that early stage in the boot process. The AV >>application would have to be a Native application, I don't even know if >>such an AV product exists, ask your AV vendor. >> > > > I will consider I have a native application. I think you are probably considering wrong, If your AV program could do this it would be in the program's option menu. If you really think that you have a native AV scan tool just add an entry for the application in the BootExecute value, it's that simple. The application has to be in the %systemroot%\system32 folder. Hint: You will have to use Regedt32 to do this. John
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