Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

June 10, 2008

Previous post, words changed places somehow

Why does win xp 64 pro, see an extend linux swap partition as a primary

partition??

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June 10, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Perhaps because xp x64 can't correctly recognize the

partition identification and just happens to show it as primary?

DWade wrote:

> Previous post, words changed places somehow

>

> Why does win xp 64 pro, see an extend linux swap partition as a primary

> partition??

June 10, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

I agree - my Linux Partitions was always displaying as 'Unrecognized', I

don't remember what color the Patition Manager used as designator, but it is

probable that it will assume it is a primary since there is nothing else to

go by.

This machine happens to be away for repairs at the moment so I cannot check.

Tony. . .

"Bobby Johnson" <rjohnson@aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message

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> Perhaps because xp x64 can't correctly recognize the

> partition identification and just happens to show it as primary?

>

> DWade wrote:

> > Previous post, words changed places somehow

> >

> > Why does win xp 64 pro, see an extend linux swap partition as a primary

> > partition??

June 10, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended partition, you

can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in Windows)

any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one primary

partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing, primary it

is!

My best guess!

Tony. . .

June 10, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

And these two proggies might come in handy for R/W Linux partitions from

XP/Vista x64:

"Ext2 Installable File System For Windows"

http://www.fs-driver.org/

and for Read Only:

"Freeware Linux Reader for Windows"

http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/

I could not determine whether this last utility is x64 compatible or not.

:)

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended partition, you

> can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in Windows)

> any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one primary

> partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing, primary it

> is!

>

> My best guess!

>

> Tony. . .

>

June 10, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Hello,

Windows should recognize the partition by the "partition type" read from

the partition table.

The partition table contains 4 entries and in one of those entries is the

partition type field which is what tells the OS what the partition is.

I have also seen Partition Type called "System ID"

You would have to dump the partition table and read the four entries to see

what is listed in the Extended partition and see if there is what Linux has

placed in there.

There are quite few different partition types

Thanks,

Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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| >Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended partition,

you

| >can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in

Windows)

| >any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one primary

| >partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing, primary

it

| >is!

| >

| >My best guess!

| >

| >Tony. . .

| >

June 10, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

True, Darrell - you can definitely find ways to read the ID's, but in my

experience Windows Partition Manager won't tell you?

Tony. . .

""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Hello,

> Windows should recognize the partition by the "partition type" read from

> the partition table.

> The partition table contains 4 entries and in one of those entries is the

> partition type field which is what tells the OS what the partition is.

> I have also seen Partition Type called "System ID"

> You would have to dump the partition table and read the four entries to

see

> what is listed in the Extended partition and see if there is what Linux

has

> placed in there.

> There are quite few different partition types

> Thanks,

> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

>

> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

> --------------------

> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

> | >References: <3C1A4F40-BFC7-446B-A9D0-1C40BC31A81B@microsoft.com>

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> | >Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended partition,

> you

> | >can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in

> Windows)

> | >any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one

primary

> | >partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing,

primary

> it

> | >is!

> | >

> | >My best guess!

> | >

> | >Tony. . .

> | >

>

June 10, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Hello,

It should, but sometimes there is more data in the partition table that it

expects.

It also would be good to know what the partition type is, to ensure that we

are not seeing a case where are partition it not be identified properly or

the data in the table is corrupted somehow.

We shouldn't be seeing this in a logical drive in any case anyway, so we

are reading more from the partition table than we should.

Since the partition table is supposed to be limited to 4 entries those

entries are the first three primary partitions and the extended one.

Where are we reading the information for the Linux partition which would

make if the fourth primary along with the extended which makes five which

isn't supposed to be possible?

Thanks,

Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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| >True, Darrell - you can definitely find ways to read the ID's, but in my

| >experience Windows Partition Manager won't tell you?

| >

| >Tony. . .

| >

| >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| >news:0IUqz10yIHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...

| >> Hello,

| >> Windows should recognize the partition by the "partition type" read

from

| >> the partition table.

| >> The partition table contains 4 entries and in one of those entries is

the

| >> partition type field which is what tells the OS what the partition is.

| >> I have also seen Partition Type called "System ID"

| >> You would have to dump the partition table and read the four entries to

| >see

| >> what is listed in the Extended partition and see if there is what Linux

| >has

| >> placed in there.

| >> There are quite few different partition types

| >> Thanks,

| >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

| >>

| >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

rights

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| >> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

| >> | >References: <3C1A4F40-BFC7-446B-A9D0-1C40BC31A81B@microsoft.com>

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| >> | >Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended

partition,

| >> you

| >> | >can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in

| >> Windows)

| >> | >any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one

| >primary

| >> | >partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing,

| >primary

| >> it

| >> | >is!

| >> | >

| >> | >My best guess!

| >> | >

| >> | >Tony. . .

| >> | >

| >>

| >

June 11, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Yes, good point. Seing there's something 'funny' with all of this anyway,

that is definitely a possible answer. Most Linux installers use some variety

of GPartEd, but their own private partitioning scheme with the swap

Partition often being the first primary partition on a drive (good idea

too, I think) so, you can easily run out of partitions on a dual-boot

system.

I have come to the conclusion that Linux on a dual-boot machine, requires

two HD's! (It doesn't, of course, but it may remove some head-ache.

Tony. . .

""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Hello,

> It should, but sometimes there is more data in the partition table that it

> expects.

> It also would be good to know what the partition type is, to ensure that

we

> are not seeing a case where are partition it not be identified properly or

> the data in the table is corrupted somehow.

>

> We shouldn't be seeing this in a logical drive in any case anyway, so we

> are reading more from the partition table than we should.

> Since the partition table is supposed to be limited to 4 entries those

> entries are the first three primary partitions and the extended one.

> Where are we reading the information for the Linux partition which would

> make if the fourth primary along with the extended which makes five which

> isn't supposed to be possible?

>

> Thanks,

> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

>

> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

> --------------------

> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

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> | >

> | >True, Darrell - you can definitely find ways to read the ID's, but in

my

> | >experience Windows Partition Manager won't tell you?

> | >

> | >Tony. . .

> | >

> | >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in

message

> | >news:0IUqz10yIHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...

> | >> Hello,

> | >> Windows should recognize the partition by the "partition type" read

> from

> | >> the partition table.

> | >> The partition table contains 4 entries and in one of those entries is

> the

> | >> partition type field which is what tells the OS what the partition

is.

> | >> I have also seen Partition Type called "System ID"

> | >> You would have to dump the partition table and read the four entries

to

> | >see

> | >> what is listed in the Extended partition and see if there is what

Linux

> | >has

> | >> placed in there.

> | >> There are quite few different partition types

> | >> Thanks,

> | >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

> | >>

> | >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

> rights

> | >> --------------------

> | >> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

> | >> | >References: <3C1A4F40-BFC7-446B-A9D0-1C40BC31A81B@microsoft.com>

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> | >> | >Subject: Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

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> | >> | >Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended

> partition,

> | >> you

> | >> | >can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in

> | >> Windows)

> | >> | >any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one

> | >primary

> | >> | >partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing,

> | >primary

> | >> it

> | >> | >is!

> | >> | >

> | >> | >My best guess!

> | >> | >

> | >> | >Tony. . .

> | >> | >

> | >>

> | >

>

June 11, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Yes, Carlos, here in Denmark we have a very good Mag ("Alt om Data.") with a

Linux column in it, and I've actually seen these things mentioned there for

many years. I've also seen dire warnings about installing those onto a

Windows system and didn't have the guts at the time to try them out. With

more experience 'under the hood', now - I think I might take a chance and

give it a run one day - I have come to develop high regard for the work of

the OSS community, now - which doesn't in the slightest deminish my regard

for the good stuff that is still CSS.

Good stuff can never be bad, even if it happens to carry a MS logo !

Thanks, for the reminder!

Tony. . .

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> And these two proggies might come in handy for R/W Linux partitions from

> XP/Vista x64:

> "Ext2 Installable File System For Windows"

> http://www.fs-driver.org/

> and for Read Only:

> "Freeware Linux Reader for Windows"

> http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/

> I could not determine whether this last utility is x64 compatible or not.

> :)

> Carlos

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

> > Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended partition,

you

> > can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in

Windows)

> > any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one

primary

> > partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing, primary

it

> > is!

> >

> > My best guess!

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

June 11, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Carlos wrote:

> "Ext2 Installable File System For Windows"

> http://www.fs-driver.org/

This works, however, I had a nasty crash using it (on XP x32) with

TrueCrypt. I was creating a sparse TrueCrypt container, and got an

instant BSOD in the ext2 driver. On rebooting, it wouldn't: the MBR was

clobbered. Not difficult to recover from (if you know what you are

doing), but a PITA nonetheless.

I would also strongly suggest you don't allow it to assign drive letters

without asking, as it does it for things which are not ext2 too.

Graham.

June 11, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

In message <3C1A4F40-BFC7-446B-A9D0-1C40BC31A81B@microsoft.com> DWade

<DWade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Why does win xp 64 pro, see an extend linux swap partition as a primary

>partition??

It probably IS a primary partition -- You can have up to four primary

partitions (one of which is normally an extended partition which

contains one or more logical partitions)

June 16, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Somebody finally get to the correct area at least. My previous post which

listed my partitions and the words some how got scrambled around where my

question wasn't asked correctly.

to re - iterate.

Partiton 1 --- primary 80 gigs Win XP Pro

partion 2 --- primary 40 gigs Win XP Pro 64 bit

partion 3 ---- Primary 18 gigs Linux - Ubuntu 64 bit

Partion 4 --- secondary 130 gigs -----Supposed to be last primary under MBR

--GUID can be unlimited. Not using GUID

logcial drive 1 windows drive D --- Linux sda 5

Logical drive 2 windows drive E ---- Linux sda 6

Logical drive 3 windows drive F --- Linux sda 7

Logical drive 4 window unknow -- Linux sda 8 - Windows XP pro 64 bit --

Primary no.5

I have formated that partition from windows. I have formated it from System

Commander's Partition commander as linux Swap and Wind XP PRO 64 still sees

it as a Primary...

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""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" wrote:

> Hello,

> It should, but sometimes there is more data in the partition table that it

> expects.

> It also would be good to know what the partition type is, to ensure that we

> are not seeing a case where are partition it not be identified properly or

> the data in the table is corrupted somehow.

>

> We shouldn't be seeing this in a logical drive in any case anyway, so we

> are reading more from the partition table than we should.

> Since the partition table is supposed to be limited to 4 entries those

> entries are the first three primary partitions and the extended one.

> Where are we reading the information for the Linux partition which would

> make if the fourth primary along with the extended which makes five which

> isn't supposed to be possible?

>

> Thanks,

> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

>

> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

> --------------------

> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

> | >References: <3C1A4F40-BFC7-446B-A9D0-1C40BC31A81B@microsoft.com>

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> | >True, Darrell - you can definitely find ways to read the ID's, but in my

> | >experience Windows Partition Manager won't tell you?

> | >

> | >Tony. . .

> | >

> | >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | >news:0IUqz10yIHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...

> | >> Hello,

> | >> Windows should recognize the partition by the "partition type" read

> from

> | >> the partition table.

> | >> The partition table contains 4 entries and in one of those entries is

> the

> | >> partition type field which is what tells the OS what the partition is.

> | >> I have also seen Partition Type called "System ID"

> | >> You would have to dump the partition table and read the four entries to

> | >see

> | >> what is listed in the Extended partition and see if there is what Linux

> | >has

> | >> placed in there.

> | >> There are quite few different partition types

> | >> Thanks,

> | >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

> | >>

> | >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

> rights

> | >> --------------------

> | >> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

> | >> | >References: <3C1A4F40-BFC7-446B-A9D0-1C40BC31A81B@microsoft.com>

> | >> <#aTn7uxyIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

> | >> <eKIWM4zyIHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>

> | >> | >Subject: Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

> | >> | >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:19:49 +0200

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> | >> | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl

> | >microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:18081

> | >> | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

> | >> | >

> | >> | >Ahh - and I forgot, you cannot put any data onto an Extended

> partition,

> | >> you

> | >> | >can only use it to create Logical Drives (With a drive letter, in

> | >> Windows)

> | >> | >any partition the system finds has to originate from at least one

> | >primary

> | >> | >partition, and the system cannot make guesses - so, not knowing,

> | >primary

> | >> it

> | >> | >is!

> | >> | >

> | >> | >My best guess!

> | >> | >

> | >> | >Tony. . .

> | >> | >

> | >>

> | >

>

June 16, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Does it really matter how XP x64 sees the partition?

Does it cause any problems?

DWade wrote:

> Somebody finally get to the correct area at least. My previous post which

> listed my partitions and the words some how got scrambled around where my

> question wasn't asked correctly.

> to re - iterate.

> Partiton 1 --- primary 80 gigs Win XP Pro

> partion 2 --- primary 40 gigs Win XP Pro 64 bit

> partion 3 ---- Primary 18 gigs Linux - Ubuntu 64 bit

> Partion 4 --- secondary 130 gigs -----Supposed to be last primary under MBR

> --GUID can be unlimited. Not using GUID

> logcial drive 1 windows drive D --- Linux sda 5

> Logical drive 2 windows drive E ---- Linux sda 6

> Logical drive 3 windows drive F --- Linux sda 7

> Logical drive 4 window unknow -- Linux sda 8 - Windows XP pro 64 bit --

> Primary no.5

>

> I have formated that partition from windows. I have formated it from System

> Commander's Partition commander as linux Swap and Wind XP PRO 64 still sees

> it as a Primary...

>

June 16, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Yes it causes problems.. My backup software Acronis reads the partition and

errors out do to quote partition errors

Since windows XP Professional and (Windows Server 2003 / win xp 64 bit) can

read a hard drive or write to hard drive if it is GUILD formatted as multiple

primary partitions, I believe the The win xp pro 64 bit, is miss interptiting

the partition, a flaw in 64 bit xp that needs to be addressed.

--

.. . . If it works ...

"Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> Does it really matter how XP x64 sees the partition?

>

> Does it cause any problems?

>

> DWade wrote:

> > Somebody finally get to the correct area at least. My previous post which

> > listed my partitions and the words some how got scrambled around where my

> > question wasn't asked correctly.

> > to re - iterate.

> > Partiton 1 --- primary 80 gigs Win XP Pro

> > partion 2 --- primary 40 gigs Win XP Pro 64 bit

> > partion 3 ---- Primary 18 gigs Linux - Ubuntu 64 bit

> > Partion 4 --- secondary 130 gigs -----Supposed to be last primary under MBR

> > --GUID can be unlimited. Not using GUID

> > logcial drive 1 windows drive D --- Linux sda 5

> > Logical drive 2 windows drive E ---- Linux sda 6

> > Logical drive 3 windows drive F --- Linux sda 7

> > Logical drive 4 window unknow -- Linux sda 8 - Windows XP pro 64 bit --

> > Primary no.5

> >

> > I have formated that partition from windows. I have formated it from System

> > Commander's Partition commander as linux Swap and Wind XP PRO 64 still sees

> > it as a Primary...

> >

>

June 17, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

If it's a bug in XP Pro x64, it would have to be an

extremely obscure bug. I've been installing and dual

booting XP x64 and Linux on hard drives for several years

and I have never encountered this type of situation. Win XP

x64 indicates the Linux partition is essentially an

"unrecognized" partition.

The GUID designation is really odd since it normally can

only be established on an empty disk. GUID is not a single

partition option, it's either the whole disk or nothing.

GUID is the Partition Table - not an individual partition.

Most likely you have a corrupted MBR giving you the

erroneous GUID designation.

Also, the last time I checked Windows XP (32-bit) can't

recognize a GUID disk.

DWade wrote:

> Yes it causes problems.. My backup software Acronis reads the partition and

> errors out do to quote partition errors

>

> Since windows XP Professional and (Windows Server 2003 / win xp 64 bit) can

> read a hard drive or write to hard drive if it is GUILD formatted as multiple

> primary partitions, I believe the The win xp pro 64 bit, is miss interptiting

> the partition, a flaw in 64 bit xp that needs to be addressed.

"Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> Does it really matter how XP x64 sees the partition?

>

> Does it cause any problems?

>

> DWade wrote:

> > Somebody finally get to the correct area at least. My

previous post which

> > listed my partitions and the words some how got

scrambled around where my

> > question wasn't asked correctly.

> > to re - iterate.

> > Partiton 1 --- primary 80 gigs Win XP Pro

> > partion 2 --- primary 40 gigs Win XP Pro 64 bit

> > partion 3 ---- Primary 18 gigs Linux - Ubuntu 64 bit

> > Partion 4 --- secondary 130 gigs -----Supposed to be

last primary under MBR

> > --GUID can be unlimited. Not using GUID

> > logcial drive 1 windows drive D --- Linux sda 5

> > Logical drive 2 windows drive E ---- Linux sda 6

> > Logical drive 3 windows drive F --- Linux sda 7

> > Logical drive 4 window unknow -- Linux sda 8 -

Windows XP pro 64 bit --

> > Primary no.5

> >

> > I have formated that partition from windows. I have

formated it from System

> > Commander's Partition commander as linux Swap and Wind

XP PRO 64 still sees

> > it as a Primary...

> >

>

June 19, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

I thought so too, window xp professional 32 bit can.

I thought of the mbr and put a nice clean fresh one there

with a boot disk (fdisk /mbr)

It must be a bug along with other problems.

I will retry changing to a fat 32 then EXT3 and the swap again.

with system commander.

This could also be a bug with the reading of raid controller software.

--

.. . . If it works ...

"Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> If it's a bug in XP Pro x64, it would have to be an

> extremely obscure bug. I've been installing and dual

> booting XP x64 and Linux on hard drives for several years

> and I have never encountered this type of situation. Win XP

> x64 indicates the Linux partition is essentially an

> "unrecognized" partition.

>

> The GUID designation is really odd since it normally can

> only be established on an empty disk. GUID is not a single

> partition option, it's either the whole disk or nothing.

> GUID is the Partition Table - not an individual partition.

>

> Most likely you have a corrupted MBR giving you the

> erroneous GUID designation.

>

> Also, the last time I checked Windows XP (32-bit) can't

> recognize a GUID disk.

>

> DWade wrote:

> > Yes it causes problems.. My backup software Acronis reads the partition and

> > errors out do to quote partition errors

> >

> > Since windows XP Professional and (Windows Server 2003 / win xp 64 bit) can

> > read a hard drive or write to hard drive if it is GUILD formatted as multiple

> > primary partitions, I believe the The win xp pro 64 bit, is miss interptiting

> > the partition, a flaw in 64 bit xp that needs to be addressed.

>

> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> > Does it really matter how XP x64 sees the partition?

> >

> > Does it cause any problems?

> >

> > DWade wrote:

> > > Somebody finally get to the correct area at least. My

> previous post which

> > > listed my partitions and the words some how got

> scrambled around where my

> > > question wasn't asked correctly.

> > > to re - iterate.

> > > Partiton 1 --- primary 80 gigs Win XP Pro

> > > partion 2 --- primary 40 gigs Win XP Pro 64 bit

> > > partion 3 ---- Primary 18 gigs Linux - Ubuntu 64 bit

> > > Partion 4 --- secondary 130 gigs -----Supposed to be

> last primary under MBR

> > > --GUID can be unlimited. Not using GUID

> > > logcial drive 1 windows drive D --- Linux sda 5

> > > Logical drive 2 windows drive E ---- Linux sda 6

> > > Logical drive 3 windows drive F --- Linux sda 7

> > > Logical drive 4 window unknow -- Linux sda 8 -

> Windows XP pro 64 bit --

> > > Primary no.5

> > >

> > > I have formated that partition from windows. I have

> formated it from System

> > > Commander's Partition commander as linux Swap and Wind

> XP PRO 64 still sees

> > > it as a Primary...

> > >

> >

>

June 20, 2008

Re: Why does Win XP 64 see partitions incorrectly???

Actually Windows XP (32-bit) cannot see the GUID partition,

it sees the legacy MBR that is placed on the disk for

leagacy OS's:

Can the 32-bit version of Windows XP read, write, and boot

from GUID Partition Table disks?

No. The 32-bit version will see only the Protective MBR. The

EE partition will not be mounted or otherwise exposed to

program software.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302873

DWade wrote:

> I thought so too, window xp professional 32 bit can.

>

> I thought of the mbr and put a nice clean fresh one there

>

> with a boot disk (fdisk /mbr)

> It must be a bug along with other problems.

>

> I will retry changing to a fat 32 then EXT3 and the swap again.

> with system commander.

>

> This could also be a bug with the reading of raid controller software.

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