Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

[Guest Lex Man]

On the specs of my computer:

 

AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

 

I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

playback becomes erratic.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Are you monitoring the temps inside the machine?

 

"Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> On the specs of my computer:

>

> AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

>

> I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

> minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

> playback becomes erratic.

[Guest Lex Man]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Are you monitoring the temps inside the machine?

>

> "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > On the specs of my computer:

> >

> > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> >

> > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

> > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

> > playback becomes erratic.

>

 

Only graphics card one which is at around 49 degrees

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Lex Man,

What about the Power Supply Unit?

Does it have enough power for your graphic card?

Are you doing any overclocking?

Are the fans clean and unobstructed?

Carlos

 

"Lex Man" wrote:

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

> > Are you monitoring the temps inside the machine?

> >

> > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > On the specs of my computer:

> > >

> > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > >

> > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

> > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

> > > playback becomes erratic.

> >

>

> Only graphics card one which is at around 49 degrees

[Guest Lex Man]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

I'm doing no overclocking and have a 500 watt power supply everything runs

fine under XP pro. All the fans are clean.

 

Arctic Power 500W PSU With PCI-E 2x SATA, 20+4 ATX12V 8pin +12V Connectors

 

I installed PC fan which is reading 48 degrees for the core it peaked at

fifty and then quickly dropped.

 

Have installed

 

"Carlos" wrote:

> Lex Man,

> What about the Power Supply Unit?

> Does it have enough power for your graphic card?

> Are you doing any overclocking?

> Are the fans clean and unobstructed?

> Carlos

>

> "Lex Man" wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> >

> > > Are you monitoring the temps inside the machine?

> > >

> > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > > On the specs of my computer:

> > > >

> > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > > >

> > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

> > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

> > > > playback becomes erratic.

> > >

> >

> > Only graphics card one which is at around 49 degrees

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Lex Man,

Power supply may be close to the limit.

Read here:

http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd3800/requirements.html

ATI recommends "450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI

Express® power"

Do you have such a connector?

Here's a list of certified power supplies:

http://ati.amd.com/products/certified/powersupplies.html

The card eats 100 watts (idle) to 200 watts (max) and is quite close to my

card, an NVidia 8800GT.

My 500 watts PSU couldn't handle the load so I had to buy a 550 watts PSU

with dual 12 volt connectors.

 

Carlos

Carlos

 

"Lex Man" wrote:

> I'm doing no overclocking and have a 500 watt power supply everything runs

> fine under XP pro. All the fans are clean.

>

> Arctic Power 500W PSU With PCI-E 2x SATA, 20+4 ATX12V 8pin +12V Connectors

>

> I installed PC fan which is reading 48 degrees for the core it peaked at

> fifty and then quickly dropped.

>

> Have installed

>

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

> > Lex Man,

> > What about the Power Supply Unit?

> > Does it have enough power for your graphic card?

> > Are you doing any overclocking?

> > Are the fans clean and unobstructed?

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Lex Man" wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Are you monitoring the temps inside the machine?

> > > >

> > > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > > > On the specs of my computer:

> > > > >

> > > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > > > >

> > > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

> > > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

> > > > > playback becomes erratic.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Only graphics card one which is at around 49 degrees

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Please don't assume "it worked under XP" as a measure when running Vista

x64.

 

"Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3B492AEC-5EF2-4DDC-9513-74832F22E2BB@microsoft.com...

> I'm doing no overclocking and have a 500 watt power supply everything runs

> fine under XP pro. All the fans are clean.

>

> Arctic Power 500W PSU With PCI-E 2x SATA, 20+4 ATX12V 8pin +12V Connectors

>

> I installed PC fan which is reading 48 degrees for the core it peaked at

> fifty and then quickly dropped.

>

> Have installed

>

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

>> Lex Man,

>> What about the Power Supply Unit?

>> Does it have enough power for your graphic card?

>> Are you doing any overclocking?

>> Are the fans clean and unobstructed?

>> Carlos

>>

>> "Lex Man" wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>> >

>> > > Are you monitoring the temps inside the machine?

>> > >

>> > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

>> > > > On the specs of my computer:

>> > > >

>> > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

>> > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

>> > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

>> > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

>> > > >

>> > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about

>> > > > twenty

>> > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and

>> > > > sound

>> > > > playback becomes erratic.

>> > >

>> >

>> > Only graphics card one which is at around 49 degrees

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to ALL your

64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the BIOS updated?

 

These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely things you

want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

 

Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what internal and

external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic Cooling has a

good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push 'some' sh*t

on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt isn't a whole lot

any more and those watts will have to be the best quality. Your temps may be

just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

 

At the very least, make sure all devices have their own connector to the PSU

and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

 

A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

 

Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> On the specs of my computer:

>

> AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

>

> I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

> minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

> playback becomes erratic.

[Guest Lex Man]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

I have two six pins on my PSU one is plugged into the back of my graphics

card without being plugged in the manchine won't turn on. I have all the

latest drivers excpt for the ATI one which I rolled back to see if it would

help the problem.

 

I havn't updated my BIOS becasue I really wanted to leave that as a last

resort.

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to ALL your

> 64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the BIOS updated?

>

> These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely things you

> want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

>

> Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what internal and

> external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic Cooling has a

> good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push 'some' sh*t

> on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt isn't a whole lot

> any more and those watts will have to be the best quality. Your temps may be

> just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

>

> At the very least, make sure all devices have their own connector to the PSU

> and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

>

> A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

>

> Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

> booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > On the specs of my computer:

> >

> > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> >

> > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about twenty

> > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and sound

> > playback becomes erratic.

>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Personally, when bringing home a new machine, checking for BIOS updates is

about the first thing I do - I may not actually flash it on the spot, that

will depend on what has been updated, and how many updates have been

released between 'my' version and the currently updated version. You can see

your version on the Boot-Screen, just after the graphics card is identified.

 

Motherboards and PC's that you buy over the counter may have some

considerable age to it. A completely new system will hardly be less than six

months old and the update activity of some manufacturers are often high just

in the beginning. So, it is important to be informed on what options you

have.

 

Any particular error may not seem BIOS related but with all the other

updating that is constantly going on elsewhere, the BIOS's functionality

could be stressed to the limits of what it was designed for, including early

development mishaps. Memory timing adjustments and general fine-tunings are

not rarely seen with these updates, as an example.

 

And how old is this machine, and what OS did it run before installing your

Vista?

 

You might want to try running a memory test-suite, and to disconnect and

re-seat every connector and internal device on the motherboard and the back

of the machine, including the memory itself, and you could also try swapping

the memory sticks around (Socket 1 -> 2 | Socket 2 -> 1) All this is

particularly important even if the ssystem was running fine with 32bit XP!

 

Oh-, and don't forget to pay a visit to Charlies blog - there's a link on

every single one of his posts here, and a nice resource for everyone in

'dire straights'. And, as a matter of fact, I believe Charlie was one having

his own set of issues with ATI and Vista?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7F9C494D-C049-4899-BE1B-CFC7E0B8C955@microsoft.com...

> I have two six pins on my PSU one is plugged into the back of my graphics

> card without being plugged in the manchine won't turn on. I have all the

> latest drivers excpt for the ATI one which I rolled back to see if it

would

> help the problem.

>

> I havn't updated my BIOS becasue I really wanted to leave that as a last

> resort.

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

> > Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to ALL your

> > 64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the BIOS updated?

> >

> > These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely things

you

> > want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

> >

> > Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what internal

and

> > external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic Cooling has a

> > good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push 'some'

sh*t

> > on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt isn't a whole

lot

> > any more and those watts will have to be the best quality. Your temps

may be

> > just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

> >

> > At the very least, make sure all devices have their own connector to the

PSU

> > and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

> >

> > A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

> >

> > Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

> > booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > On the specs of my computer:

> > >

> > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > >

> > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about

twenty

> > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and

sound

> > > playback becomes erratic.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest Lex Man]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

 

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Personally, when bringing home a new machine, checking for BIOS updates is

> about the first thing I do - I may not actually flash it on the spot, that

> will depend on what has been updated, and how many updates have been

> released between 'my' version and the currently updated version. You can see

> your version on the Boot-Screen, just after the graphics card is identified.

>

> Motherboards and PC's that you buy over the counter may have some

> considerable age to it. A completely new system will hardly be less than six

> months old and the update activity of some manufacturers are often high just

> in the beginning. So, it is important to be informed on what options you

> have.

>

> Any particular error may not seem BIOS related but with all the other

> updating that is constantly going on elsewhere, the BIOS's functionality

> could be stressed to the limits of what it was designed for, including early

> development mishaps. Memory timing adjustments and general fine-tunings are

> not rarely seen with these updates, as an example.

>

> And how old is this machine, and what OS did it run before installing your

> Vista?

>

> You might want to try running a memory test-suite, and to disconnect and

> re-seat every connector and internal device on the motherboard and the back

> of the machine, including the memory itself, and you could also try swapping

> the memory sticks around (Socket 1 -> 2 | Socket 2 -> 1) All this is

> particularly important even if the ssystem was running fine with 32bit XP!

>

> Oh-, and don't forget to pay a visit to Charlies blog - there's a link on

> every single one of his posts here, and a nice resource for everyone in

> 'dire straights'. And, as a matter of fact, I believe Charlie was one having

> his own set of issues with ATI and Vista?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:7F9C494D-C049-4899-BE1B-CFC7E0B8C955@microsoft.com...

> > I have two six pins on my PSU one is plugged into the back of my graphics

> > card without being plugged in the manchine won't turn on. I have all the

> > latest drivers excpt for the ATI one which I rolled back to see if it

> would

> > help the problem.

> >

> > I havn't updated my BIOS becasue I really wanted to leave that as a last

> > resort.

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >

> > > Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to ALL your

> > > 64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the BIOS updated?

> > >

> > > These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely things

> you

> > > want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

> > >

> > > Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what internal

> and

> > > external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic Cooling has a

> > > good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push 'some'

> sh*t

> > > on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt isn't a whole

> lot

> > > any more and those watts will have to be the best quality. Your temps

> may be

> > > just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

> > >

> > > At the very least, make sure all devices have their own connector to the

> PSU

> > > and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

> > >

> > > A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

> > >

> > > Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

> > > booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

> > >

> > >

> > > Tony. . .

> > >

> > >

> > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > > On the specs of my computer:

> > > >

> > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > > >

> > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about

> twenty

> > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and

> sound

> > > > playback becomes erratic.

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

 

Ok I've updated my BIOS also ran through my machine with OneCare scanner

don't know if it will help but I will check tomorrow.

 

I don't like flashing bios's as it can lead to horrible problems when it

doesn't work right. If it doesn't work I'm going to give up and call it a

day.

 

Thanks Lex-Man

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Well, I have been flashing BIOS's pretty much since the EEPROM first

appeared and it has always worked flawlessly for me. Remember to read the

instructions, though. There is usually (I should say - allways!) a utility

to save your current BIOS to a *.BIN file and store it in a safe place.

Then, the only mantra you have to remember in case of one of these horrible

errors is really "Don't turn off the machine! Don't turn off the machine!

Don't turn off the machine!!!"

 

This requirement fullfilled, you can allways re-load the old setup from the

BIN file.

 

That said - flashing your BIOS really IS the scariest thing you can venture

into, gives me the creeping willies every time!

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C1149DA5-4B88-4507-BACE-2CD3FE02C83E@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

> > Personally, when bringing home a new machine, checking for BIOS updates

is

> > about the first thing I do - I may not actually flash it on the spot,

that

> > will depend on what has been updated, and how many updates have been

> > released between 'my' version and the currently updated version. You can

see

> > your version on the Boot-Screen, just after the graphics card is

identified.

> >

> > Motherboards and PC's that you buy over the counter may have some

> > considerable age to it. A completely new system will hardly be less than

six

> > months old and the update activity of some manufacturers are often high

just

> > in the beginning. So, it is important to be informed on what options you

> > have.

> >

> > Any particular error may not seem BIOS related but with all the other

> > updating that is constantly going on elsewhere, the BIOS's functionality

> > could be stressed to the limits of what it was designed for, including

early

> > development mishaps. Memory timing adjustments and general fine-tunings

are

> > not rarely seen with these updates, as an example.

> >

> > And how old is this machine, and what OS did it run before installing

your

> > Vista?

> >

> > You might want to try running a memory test-suite, and to disconnect and

> > re-seat every connector and internal device on the motherboard and the

back

> > of the machine, including the memory itself, and you could also try

swapping

> > the memory sticks around (Socket 1 -> 2 | Socket 2 -> 1) All this is

> > particularly important even if the ssystem was running fine with 32bit

XP!

> >

> > Oh-, and don't forget to pay a visit to Charlies blog - there's a link

on

> > every single one of his posts here, and a nice resource for everyone in

> > 'dire straights'. And, as a matter of fact, I believe Charlie was one

having

> > his own set of issues with ATI and Vista?

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:7F9C494D-C049-4899-BE1B-CFC7E0B8C955@microsoft.com...

> > > I have two six pins on my PSU one is plugged into the back of my

graphics

> > > card without being plugged in the manchine won't turn on. I have all

the

> > > latest drivers excpt for the ATI one which I rolled back to see if it

> > would

> > > help the problem.

> > >

> > > I havn't updated my BIOS becasue I really wanted to leave that as a

last

> > > resort.

> > >

> > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to ALL

your

> > > > 64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the BIOS

updated?

> > > >

> > > > These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely

things

> > you

> > > > want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

> > > >

> > > > Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what

internal

> > and

> > > > external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic Cooling

has a

> > > > good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push

'some'

> > sh*t

> > > > on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt isn't a

whole

> > lot

> > > > any more and those watts will have to be the best quality. Your

temps

> > may be

> > > > just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

> > > >

> > > > At the very least, make sure all devices have their own connector to

the

> > PSU

> > > > and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

> > > >

> > > > A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

> > > >

> > > > Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

> > > > booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tony. . .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > > > On the specs of my computer:

> > > > >

> > > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > > > >

> > > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about

> > twenty

> > > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and

> > sound

> > > > > playback becomes erratic.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

>

> Ok I've updated my BIOS also ran through my machine with OneCare scanner

> don't know if it will help but I will check tomorrow.

>

> I don't like flashing bios's as it can lead to horrible problems when it

> doesn't work right. If it doesn't work I'm going to give up and call it a

> day.

>

> Thanks Lex-Man

>

>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

Having an UPS hooked up to the PC certainly eases part of the tension when

flashing the BIOS, so that no power outage may interrupt the process.

BIOSes now have a non-flashable portion that keeps the code that ensures the

emergency flashing process, when you have no video and the pc speaker beeps

like hell.

And yes, I do flash bioses to the latest release when the introduced

changes/fixes mean a benefit to me.

:)

Carlos

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Well, I have been flashing BIOS's pretty much since the EEPROM first

> appeared and it has always worked flawlessly for me. Remember to read the

> instructions, though. There is usually (I should say - allways!) a utility

> to save your current BIOS to a *.BIN file and store it in a safe place.

> Then, the only mantra you have to remember in case of one of these horrible

> errors is really "Don't turn off the machine! Don't turn off the machine!

> Don't turn off the machine!!!"

>

> This requirement fullfilled, you can allways re-load the old setup from the

> BIN file.

>

> That said - flashing your BIOS really IS the scariest thing you can venture

> into, gives me the creeping willies every time!

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C1149DA5-4B88-4507-BACE-2CD3FE02C83E@microsoft.com...

> >

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >

> > > Personally, when bringing home a new machine, checking for BIOS updates

> is

> > > about the first thing I do - I may not actually flash it on the spot,

> that

> > > will depend on what has been updated, and how many updates have been

> > > released between 'my' version and the currently updated version. You can

> see

> > > your version on the Boot-Screen, just after the graphics card is

> identified.

> > >

> > > Motherboards and PC's that you buy over the counter may have some

> > > considerable age to it. A completely new system will hardly be less than

> six

> > > months old and the update activity of some manufacturers are often high

> just

> > > in the beginning. So, it is important to be informed on what options you

> > > have.

> > >

> > > Any particular error may not seem BIOS related but with all the other

> > > updating that is constantly going on elsewhere, the BIOS's functionality

> > > could be stressed to the limits of what it was designed for, including

> early

> > > development mishaps. Memory timing adjustments and general fine-tunings

> are

> > > not rarely seen with these updates, as an example.

> > >

> > > And how old is this machine, and what OS did it run before installing

> your

> > > Vista?

> > >

> > > You might want to try running a memory test-suite, and to disconnect and

> > > re-seat every connector and internal device on the motherboard and the

> back

> > > of the machine, including the memory itself, and you could also try

> swapping

> > > the memory sticks around (Socket 1 -> 2 | Socket 2 -> 1) All this is

> > > particularly important even if the ssystem was running fine with 32bit

> XP!

> > >

> > > Oh-, and don't forget to pay a visit to Charlies blog - there's a link

> on

> > > every single one of his posts here, and a nice resource for everyone in

> > > 'dire straights'. And, as a matter of fact, I believe Charlie was one

> having

> > > his own set of issues with ATI and Vista?

> > >

> > >

> > > Tony. . .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:7F9C494D-C049-4899-BE1B-CFC7E0B8C955@microsoft.com...

> > > > I have two six pins on my PSU one is plugged into the back of my

> graphics

> > > > card without being plugged in the manchine won't turn on. I have all

> the

> > > > latest drivers excpt for the ATI one which I rolled back to see if it

> > > would

> > > > help the problem.

> > > >

> > > > I havn't updated my BIOS becasue I really wanted to leave that as a

> last

> > > > resort.

> > > >

> > > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to ALL

> your

> > > > > 64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the BIOS

> updated?

> > > > >

> > > > > These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely

> things

> > > you

> > > > > want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

> > > > >

> > > > > Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what

> internal

> > > and

> > > > > external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic Cooling

> has a

> > > > > good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push

> 'some'

> > > sh*t

> > > > > on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt isn't a

> whole

> > > lot

> > > > > any more and those watts will have to be the best quality. Your

> temps

> > > may be

> > > > > just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

> > > > >

> > > > > At the very least, make sure all devices have their own connector to

> the

> > > PSU

> > > > > and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

> > > > >

> > > > > A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

> > > > >

> > > > > Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

> > > > > booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tony. . .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > On the specs of my computer:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about

> > > twenty

> > > > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and

> > > sound

> > > > > > playback becomes erratic.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Ok I've updated my BIOS also ran through my machine with OneCare scanner

> > don't know if it will help but I will check tomorrow.

> >

> > I don't like flashing bios's as it can lead to horrible problems when it

> > doesn't work right. If it doesn't work I'm going to give up and call it a

> > day.

> >

> > Thanks Lex-Man

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Lex Man]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

It went fine I did save a backup of my BIOS even though my BIOS thing keeps

two copyies so I could switch back to the old one an any time.

 

I've only ever flashed two pieces of hardware one was a graphics card that

died as soon as I had done it. I.E the sceen went black even without the

reseting the computer. The other was a computer that would only see 18 gigs

of a 250 drive and that worked out fine.

 

In this case Vista now appears to be working fine.

 

Thanks you Tony.

 

 

 

"Carlos" wrote:

> Having an UPS hooked up to the PC certainly eases part of the tension when

> flashing the BIOS, so that no power outage may interrupt the process.

> BIOSes now have a non-flashable portion that keeps the code that ensures the

> emergency flashing process, when you have no video and the pc speaker beeps

> like hell.

> And yes, I do flash bioses to the latest release when the introduced

> changes/fixes mean a benefit to me.

> :)

> Carlos

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

> > Well, I have been flashing BIOS's pretty much since the EEPROM first

> > appeared and it has always worked flawlessly for me. Remember to read the

> > instructions, though. There is usually (I should say - allways!) a utility

> > to save your current BIOS to a *.BIN file and store it in a safe place.

> > Then, the only mantra you have to remember in case of one of these horrible

> > errors is really "Don't turn off the machine! Don't turn off the machine!

> > Don't turn off the machine!!!"

> >

> > This requirement fullfilled, you can allways re-load the old setup from the

> > BIN file.

> >

> > That said - flashing your BIOS really IS the scariest thing you can venture

> > into, gives me the creeping willies every time!

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:C1149DA5-4B88-4507-BACE-2CD3FE02C83E@microsoft.com...

> > >

> > >

> > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Personally, when bringing home a new machine, checking for BIOS updates

> > is

> > > > about the first thing I do - I may not actually flash it on the spot,

> > that

> > > > will depend on what has been updated, and how many updates have been

> > > > released between 'my' version and the currently updated version. You can

> > see

> > > > your version on the Boot-Screen, just after the graphics card is

> > identified.

> > > >

> > > > Motherboards and PC's that you buy over the counter may have some

> > > > considerable age to it. A completely new system will hardly be less than

> > six

> > > > months old and the update activity of some manufacturers are often high

> > just

> > > > in the beginning. So, it is important to be informed on what options you

> > > > have.

> > > >

> > > > Any particular error may not seem BIOS related but with all the other

> > > > updating that is constantly going on elsewhere, the BIOS's functionality

> > > > could be stressed to the limits of what it was designed for, including

> > early

> > > > development mishaps. Memory timing adjustments and general fine-tunings

> > are

> > > > not rarely seen with these updates, as an example.

> > > >

> > > > And how old is this machine, and what OS did it run before installing

> > your

> > > > Vista?

> > > >

> > > > You might want to try running a memory test-suite, and to disconnect and

> > > > re-seat every connector and internal device on the motherboard and the

> > back

> > > > of the machine, including the memory itself, and you could also try

> > swapping

> > > > the memory sticks around (Socket 1 -> 2 | Socket 2 -> 1) All this is

> > > > particularly important even if the ssystem was running fine with 32bit

> > XP!

> > > >

> > > > Oh-, and don't forget to pay a visit to Charlies blog - there's a link

> > on

> > > > every single one of his posts here, and a nice resource for everyone in

> > > > 'dire straights'. And, as a matter of fact, I believe Charlie was one

> > having

> > > > his own set of issues with ATI and Vista?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tony. . .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:7F9C494D-C049-4899-BE1B-CFC7E0B8C955@microsoft.com...

> > > > > I have two six pins on my PSU one is plugged into the back of my

> > graphics

> > > > > card without being plugged in the manchine won't turn on. I have all

> > the

> > > > > latest drivers excpt for the ATI one which I rolled back to see if it

> > > > would

> > > > > help the problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > I havn't updated my BIOS becasue I really wanted to leave that as a

> > last

> > > > > resort.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to ALL

> > your

> > > > > > 64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the BIOS

> > updated?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely

> > things

> > > > you

> > > > > > want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what

> > internal

> > > > and

> > > > > > external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic Cooling

> > has a

> > > > > > good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push

> > 'some'

> > > > sh*t

> > > > > > on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt isn't a

> > whole

> > > > lot

> > > > > > any more and those watts will have to be the best quality. Your

> > temps

> > > > may be

> > > > > > just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At the very least, make sure all devices have their own connector to

> > the

> > > > PSU

> > > > > > and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

> > > > > > booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tony. . .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > > On the specs of my computer:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > > > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > > > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > > > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for about

> > > > twenty

> > > > > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and video and

> > > > sound

> > > > > > > playback becomes erratic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ok I've updated my BIOS also ran through my machine with OneCare scanner

> > > don't know if it will help but I will check tomorrow.

> > >

> > > I don't like flashing bios's as it can lead to horrible problems when it

> > > doesn't work right. If it doesn't work I'm going to give up and call it a

> > > day.

> > >

> > > Thanks Lex-Man

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Vista Ultimate 64 acting erraticly.

 

This is good news - we're all glad to help.

 

As I said before, it is not easy to know if flashing will help in a certain

situation, but is is a good place to start before troubleshooting anything

else that nobody may know what it may be.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EC0E1D49-195C-408C-8C82-BB762AD87B0C@microsoft.com...

> It went fine I did save a backup of my BIOS even though my BIOS thing

keeps

> two copyies so I could switch back to the old one an any time.

>

> I've only ever flashed two pieces of hardware one was a graphics card that

> died as soon as I had done it. I.E the sceen went black even without the

> reseting the computer. The other was a computer that would only see 18

gigs

> of a 250 drive and that worked out fine.

>

> In this case Vista now appears to be working fine.

>

> Thanks you Tony.

>

>

>

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

> > Having an UPS hooked up to the PC certainly eases part of the tension

when

> > flashing the BIOS, so that no power outage may interrupt the process.

> > BIOSes now have a non-flashable portion that keeps the code that ensures

the

> > emergency flashing process, when you have no video and the pc speaker

beeps

> > like hell.

> > And yes, I do flash bioses to the latest release when the introduced

> > changes/fixes mean a benefit to me.

> > :)

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >

> > > Well, I have been flashing BIOS's pretty much since the EEPROM first

> > > appeared and it has always worked flawlessly for me. Remember to read

the

> > > instructions, though. There is usually (I should say - allways!) a

utility

> > > to save your current BIOS to a *.BIN file and store it in a safe

place.

> > > Then, the only mantra you have to remember in case of one of these

horrible

> > > errors is really "Don't turn off the machine! Don't turn off the

machine!

> > > Don't turn off the machine!!!"

> > >

> > > This requirement fullfilled, you can allways re-load the old setup

from the

> > > BIN file.

> > >

> > > That said - flashing your BIOS really IS the scariest thing you can

venture

> > > into, gives me the creeping willies every time!

> > >

> > >

> > > Tony. . .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:C1149DA5-4B88-4507-BACE-2CD3FE02C83E@microsoft.com...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Personally, when bringing home a new machine, checking for BIOS

updates

> > > is

> > > > > about the first thing I do - I may not actually flash it on the

spot,

> > > that

> > > > > will depend on what has been updated, and how many updates have

been

> > > > > released between 'my' version and the currently updated version.

You can

> > > see

> > > > > your version on the Boot-Screen, just after the graphics card is

> > > identified.

> > > > >

> > > > > Motherboards and PC's that you buy over the counter may have some

> > > > > considerable age to it. A completely new system will hardly be

less than

> > > six

> > > > > months old and the update activity of some manufacturers are often

high

> > > just

> > > > > in the beginning. So, it is important to be informed on what

options you

> > > > > have.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any particular error may not seem BIOS related but with all the

other

> > > > > updating that is constantly going on elsewhere, the BIOS's

functionality

> > > > > could be stressed to the limits of what it was designed for,

including

> > > early

> > > > > development mishaps. Memory timing adjustments and general

fine-tunings

> > > are

> > > > > not rarely seen with these updates, as an example.

> > > > >

> > > > > And how old is this machine, and what OS did it run before

installing

> > > your

> > > > > Vista?

> > > > >

> > > > > You might want to try running a memory test-suite, and to

disconnect and

> > > > > re-seat every connector and internal device on the motherboard and

the

> > > back

> > > > > of the machine, including the memory itself, and you could also

try

> > > swapping

> > > > > the memory sticks around (Socket 1 -> 2 | Socket 2 -> 1) All this

is

> > > > > particularly important even if the ssystem was running fine with

32bit

> > > XP!

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh-, and don't forget to pay a visit to Charlies blog - there's a

link

> > > on

> > > > > every single one of his posts here, and a nice resource for

everyone in

> > > > > 'dire straights'. And, as a matter of fact, I believe Charlie was

one

> > > having

> > > > > his own set of issues with ATI and Vista?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tony. . .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > news:7F9C494D-C049-4899-BE1B-CFC7E0B8C955@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > I have two six pins on my PSU one is plugged into the back of my

> > > graphics

> > > > > > card without being plugged in the manchine won't turn on. I

have all

> > > the

> > > > > > latest drivers excpt for the ATI one which I rolled back to see

if it

> > > > > would

> > > > > > help the problem.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I havn't updated my BIOS becasue I really wanted to leave that

as a

> > > last

> > > > > > resort.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since you only just installed - have you looked for updates to

ALL

> > > your

> > > > > > > 64bit drivers? Including the ones on the system CD! Is the

BIOS

> > > updated?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > These items alone may not fix your problem, but are definitely

> > > things

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > want to do before trying the 'despair' option!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Personally, I think your PSU looks O.K. but it depends on what

> > > internal

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > external power consuming devices you have attached. Arctic

Cooling

> > > has a

> > > > > > > good name to it, but we should appreciate that all brands push

> > > 'some'

> > > > > sh*t

> > > > > > > on to the market as well. At the end of the day, 500 watt

isn't a

> > > whole

> > > > > lot

> > > > > > > any more and those watts will have to be the best quality.

Your

> > > temps

> > > > > may be

> > > > > > > just a 'tad' high, but couldn't be serious, I don't think.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > At the very least, make sure all devices have their own

connector to

> > > the

> > > > > PSU

> > > > > > > and doesn't share it with even a single fan - (as an example).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A '939' socket probably isn't completely new - how old apprx?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Try and disconnect everything the machine doesn't need for

> > > > > > > booting-and-starting Windows, and see how it fares?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tony. . .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Lex Man" <LexMan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > > news:FDDB4F44-AF58-4171-A33F-A4234BDEE281@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > > > On the specs of my computer:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > AMD 64 4800+ 939 socket

> > > > > > > > Asus A8R32-MVP Delux motherboard

> > > > > > > > Creative Audigy Sound Card ZX Platinum

> > > > > > > > ATI 3850 256mb HD graphics card

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I just installed Vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine for

about

> > > > > twenty

> > > > > > > > minutes before things start playing up. I lose aero and

video and

> > > > > sound

> > > > > > > > playback becomes erratic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok I've updated my BIOS also ran through my machine with OneCare

scanner

> > > > don't know if it will help but I will check tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > I don't like flashing bios's as it can lead to horrible problems

when it

> > > > doesn't work right. If it doesn't work I'm going to give up and

call it a

> > > > day.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Lex-Man

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >