XP 64Bit installation USB devices

[Guest umwhat]

Will XP 64Bit Edition install onto a USB connected Sata2 harddrive? XP Home

Editon will already be installed onto a motherboard connected Sata harddrive.

The bios has boot from USB devices settings.

 

 

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[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Other than Embedded editions no other Windows version has support for

installation on USB devices, it is not a supported installation. If you

search the net you will find some information from some folks who have

toyed with this and who claim to have gotten it to work, but you will

also find lots of reports of failure, bugs, and unstable installations.

Most who try eventually abandon the project because the results are

usually unstable Windows installations.

 

John

 

umwhat wrote:

> Will XP 64Bit Edition install onto a USB connected Sata2 harddrive? XP Home

> Editon will already be installed onto a motherboard connected Sata harddrive.

> The bios has boot from USB devices settings.

>

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

I thought that to be the case but having seen the "Boot from USB" option in

the bios I asked the question.

>If you search the net you will find some information from some folks who have

> toyed with this and who claim to have gotten it to work, but you will

> also find lots of reports of failure, bugs, and unstable installations.

 

...yes...later it conks out.

 

 

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> Other than Embedded editions no other Windows version has support for

> installation on USB devices, it is not a supported installation.

> Most who try eventually abandon the project because the results are

> usually unstable Windows installations.

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > Will XP 64Bit Edition install onto a USB connected Sata2 harddrive? XP Home

> > Editon will already be installed onto a motherboard connected Sata harddrive.

> > The bios has boot from USB devices settings.

> >

> >

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Will Windows 64Bit Edition install onto a second harddrive if the second

harddrive is connected to an addon PCI card that has a Sata connector on it?

Still, the card would need to be 64 bit compatible...the card I saw says it

for 32bit but does not mention 64 bit.

 

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> Other than Embedded editions no other Windows version has support for

> installation on USB devices, it is not a supported installation. If you

> search the net you will find some information from some folks who have

> toyed with this and who claim to have gotten it to work, but you will

> also find lots of reports of failure, bugs, and unstable installations.

> Most who try eventually abandon the project because the results are

> usually unstable Windows installations.

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > Will XP 64Bit Edition install onto a USB connected Sata2 harddrive? XP Home

> > Editon will already be installed onto a motherboard connected Sata harddrive.

> > The bios has boot from USB devices settings.

> >

> >

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

umwhat wrote:

> I thought that to be the case but having seen the "Boot from USB" option in

> the bios I asked the question.

 

You can boot the computer from USB and you can boot other operating

systems from USB, but not Windows. A PE like Bart's PE is an operating

system that can run from a CD or flash drive. Live Linux CDs are also

operating systems that can be booted and run from USB CD, possibly Linux

versions can be installed on USB drives, I haven't looked into it so I

don't know. But a full Windows installation cannot be booted from USB

drives, it isn't supported.

 

John

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Yes, absolutely. Find a suitable card and supply the drivers to the

setup program during the installation (use F6 and have the drivers on a

floppy diskette).

 

John

 

umwhat wrote:

> Will Windows 64Bit Edition install onto a second harddrive if the second

> harddrive is connected to an addon PCI card that has a Sata connector on it?

> Still, the card would need to be 64 bit compatible...the card I saw says it

> for 32bit but does not mention 64 bit.

>

[Guest Bobby Johnson]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

The hardware will work in 64-bit if the driver supports it.

It's the software drivers that are OS specific, not the

hardware.

 

 

umwhat wrote:

> Will Windows 64Bit Edition install onto a second harddrive if the second

> harddrive is connected to an addon PCI card that has a Sata connector on it?

> Still, the card would need to be 64 bit compatible...the card I saw says it

> for 32bit but does not mention 64 bit.

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Hi John,

...you are saying to install drivers at the F6 prompt during installation.

Is that a requirement for RAID and not a requirement for Non-RAID setup.I do

not wish to install a RAID setup.

I will have XP Home Edition on a first harddrive. I would like to install a

second harddrive to install XP 64Bit Edition. I want to use the Backup in the

XP Pro to backup the work I will do for a computer course using Microsoft

Office 2003 which I will install into the XP Home installation.

BTW...

....I was browsing tonight and got the impression that Microsoft Office

Professional 2003 is an operating system. Is that right?...I have thought I

would be installing it into an operating system, Windows XP Home Edition.

 

 

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> Yes, absolutely. Find a suitable card and supply the drivers to the

> setup program during the installation (use F6 and have the drivers on a

> floppy diskette).

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > Will Windows 64Bit Edition install onto a second harddrive if the second

> > harddrive is connected to an addon PCI card that has a Sata connector on it?

> > Still, the card would need to be 64 bit compatible...the card I saw says it

> > for 32bit but does not mention 64 bit.

> >

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

It's a requirement for *all* controllers that do not have drivers

included on the Windows installation cd. In your case you will be

wanting to boot the drive on a controller on the add-on card so you will

need to supply the driver for the controller on that card, i.e. the

drivers that come with the card. Some of the most popular cards may

have drivers included on the Windows cd but don't count on that, most do

not and you will have to supply the driver when you install Windows.

 

John

 

umwhat wrote:

> Hi John,

> ...you are saying to install drivers at the F6 prompt during installation.

> Is that a requirement for RAID and not a requirement for Non-RAID setup.I do

> not wish to install a RAID setup.

> I will have XP Home Edition on a first harddrive. I would like to install a

> second harddrive to install XP 64Bit Edition. I want to use the Backup in the

> XP Pro to backup the work I will do for a computer course using Microsoft

> Office 2003 which I will install into the XP Home installation.

> BTW...

> ...I was browsing tonight and got the impression that Microsoft Office

> Professional 2003 is an operating system. Is that right?...I have thought I

> would be installing it into an operating system, Windows XP Home Edition.

>

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

umwhat wrote:

> ...I was browsing tonight and got the impression that Microsoft Office

> Professional 2003 is an operating system. Is that right?

 

No, that is one of the Microsoft Office Suite versions. The only

operating system that has "2003" in its nane is Server 2003.

 

John

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

My thoughts were, the F6 prompt for driver installation would be to install

RAID only drivers. I see the F6 prompt is asking for the card controller

driver.

 

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> It's a requirement for *all* controllers that do not have drivers

> included on the Windows installation cd. In your case you will be

> wanting to boot the drive on a controller on the add-on card so you will

> need to supply the driver for the controller on that card, i.e. the

> drivers that come with the card. Some of the most popular cards may

> have drivers included on the Windows cd but don't count on that, most do

> not and you will have to supply the driver when you install Windows.

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > Hi John,

> > ...you are saying to install drivers at the F6 prompt during installation.

> > Is that a requirement for RAID and not a requirement for Non-RAID setup.I do

> > not wish to install a RAID setup.

> > I will have XP Home Edition on a first harddrive. I would like to install a

> > second harddrive to install XP 64Bit Edition. I want to use the Backup in the

> > XP Pro to backup the work I will do for a computer course using Microsoft

> > Office 2003 which I will install into the XP Home installation.

> > BTW...

> > ...I was browsing tonight and got the impression that Microsoft Office

> > Professional 2003 is an operating system. Is that right?...I have thought I

> > would be installing it into an operating system, Windows XP Home Edition.

> >

> >

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Thankyou.

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > ...I was browsing tonight and got the impression that Microsoft Office

> > Professional 2003 is an operating system. Is that right?

>

> No, that is one of the Microsoft Office Suite versions. The only

> operating system that has "2003" in its nane is Server 2003.

>

> John

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

I have been asking questions about the same things I am asking in this thread

about having backup ready for when I start the computing course I hope to be

accepted for soon.

The last thing I need to know know and did ask in the other thread but left

a comment I was asking in htis thread is...

 

Will I be able to use Windows Backup in a Windows XP 64Bit Edition

Professional installation in a second harddrive with Windows XP Home Edition

in the first harddrive and have all the backup features available to back up

the whole Windows XP harddrive?

My concern is for the backup of work I do for the course? Incremental

backups sounds like a good option for the back ups.

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> It's a requirement for *all* controllers that do not have drivers

> included on the Windows installation cd. In your case you will be

> wanting to boot the drive on a controller on the add-on card so you will

> need to supply the driver for the controller on that card, i.e. the

> drivers that come with the card. Some of the most popular cards may

> have drivers included on the Windows cd but don't count on that, most do

> not and you will have to supply the driver when you install Windows.

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > Hi John,

> > ...you are saying to install drivers at the F6 prompt during installation.

> > Is that a requirement for RAID and not a requirement for Non-RAID setup.I do

> > not wish to install a RAID setup.

> > I will have XP Home Edition on a first harddrive. I would like to install a

> > second harddrive to install XP 64Bit Edition. I want to use the Backup in the

> > XP Pro to backup the work I will do for a computer course using Microsoft

> > Office 2003 which I will install into the XP Home installation.

> > BTW...

> > ...I was browsing tonight and got the impression that Microsoft Office

> > Professional 2003 is an operating system. Is that right?...I have thought I

> > would be installing it into an operating system, Windows XP Home Edition.

> >

> >

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

It's for all "Mass Storage Controller" drivers, add on controller cards

fall in that category. See here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859

 

John

 

umwhat wrote:

> My thoughts were, the F6 prompt for driver installation would be to install

> RAID only drivers. I see the F6 prompt is asking for the card controller

> driver.

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

If you are asking if you will be able to use a backup utility installed

on x64 while you are booted to XP Home the answer is no, you won't be

able to use the backup utility installed on XP x64 when you are using XP

Home. That would also apply even if the second operating system was

also an XP Home version.

 

Other than small self contained programs or programs that do not use the

registry at all you cannot use programs on other installations. In

order to properly use the program you must install it on the Windows

installation that will use it, the necessary registry information will

be written when the program is installed, only then will the program be

usable.

 

Being that you are a student I don't know about your "funds" situation,

but if you can spare a few dollars I think you would be wise to invest

in a good backup utility. The Windows backup utility (NTBackUp) is ok

for certain things but it has severe limitations. It would be ok and

easy to use from one OS to backup the other dormant installation, but

when it comes to disaster recovery it isn't the best of tools. By the

way, while the backup tool is not installed on XP Home, it is on the

Windows cd and you can install it on XP Home. If it isn't on your

Windows CD it is available for download on the internet. Also, while

the NTBackUp utility can be used on XP Home, it cannot do ASR backups or

be used to do ASR restore on the XP Home version.

 

John

 

umwhat wrote:

 

 

> I have been asking questions about the same things I am asking in this thread

> about having backup ready for when I start the computing course I hope to be

> accepted for soon.

> The last thing I need to know know and did ask in the other thread but left

> a comment I was asking in htis thread is...

>

> Will I be able to use Windows Backup in a Windows XP 64Bit Edition

> Professional installation in a second harddrive with Windows XP Home Edition

> in the first harddrive and have all the backup features available to back up

> the whole Windows XP harddrive?

> My concern is for the backup of work I do for the course? Incremental

> backups sounds like a good option for the back ups.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

I solved that by buying a SATA drive enclosure and connecting to one of the

eSATA ports on the back of my computer. If you don't have eSATA ports you

can add a passthrough connector that lets you connect to a SATA port on the

mobo internally and to the enclosure with a second cable externally.

 

"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message

news:011E9815-2C7C-4C77-95B9-645A30859487@microsoft.com...

> Will XP 64Bit Edition install onto a USB connected Sata2 harddrive? XP

> Home

> Editon will already be installed onto a motherboard connected Sata

> harddrive.

> The bios has boot from USB devices settings.

>

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[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Subject: Backup/Dual Boot XP Home & XP Pro 64Bit...

 

John, Charlie has answered this part of my questions in the thread I started

there...and is saying the XP 64Bit Edition Pro Backup Utility will work full

featured for both harddrives from the XP 64Bit Edition Pro harddrive.

 

... but I am getting the impression from your post that will not work

because of the limited XP Home backup utility. Trying to think logically it

seems the xp pro backup will work full featured for me that way.

 

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> If you are asking if you will be able to use a backup utility installed

> on x64 while you are booted to XP Home the answer is no, you won't be

> able to use the backup utility installed on XP x64 when you are using XP

> Home. That would also apply even if the second operating system was

> also an XP Home version.

>

> Other than small self contained programs or programs that do not use the

> registry at all you cannot use programs on other installations. In

> order to properly use the program you must install it on the Windows

> installation that will use it, the necessary registry information will

> be written when the program is installed, only then will the program be

> usable.

>

> Being that you are a student I don't know about your "funds" situation,

> but if you can spare a few dollars I think you would be wise to invest

> in a good backup utility. The Windows backup utility (NTBackUp) is ok

> for certain things but it has severe limitations. It would be ok and

> easy to use from one OS to backup the other dormant installation, but

> when it comes to disaster recovery it isn't the best of tools. By the

> way, while the backup tool is not installed on XP Home, it is on the

> Windows cd and you can install it on XP Home. If it isn't on your

> Windows CD it is available for download on the internet. Also, while

> the NTBackUp utility can be used on XP Home, it cannot do ASR backups or

> be used to do ASR restore on the XP Home version.

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

>

>

> > I have been asking questions about the same things I am asking in this thread

> > about having backup ready for when I start the computing course I hope to be

> > accepted for soon.

> > The last thing I need to know know and did ask in the other thread but left

> > a comment I was asking in htis thread is...

> >

> > Will I be able to use Windows Backup in a Windows XP 64Bit Edition

> > Professional installation in a second harddrive with Windows XP Home Edition

> > in the first harddrive and have all the backup features available to back up

> > the whole Windows XP harddrive?

> > My concern is for the backup of work I do for the course? Incremental

> > backups sounds like a good option for the back ups.

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

John is simply saying that you have to be running XP64 to use its backup

program. You cannot run the XP64 backup while running XP Home. That's

pretty basic stuff.

 

"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message

news:E4D4FF05-A3D9-4488-B67F-75C83E73E52F@microsoft.com...

> Subject: Backup/Dual Boot XP Home & XP Pro 64Bit...

>

> John, Charlie has answered this part of my questions in the thread I

> started

> there...and is saying the XP 64Bit Edition Pro Backup Utility will work

> full

> featured for both harddrives from the XP 64Bit Edition Pro harddrive.

>

> ... but I am getting the impression from your post that will not work

> because of the limited XP Home backup utility. Trying to think logically

> it

> seems the xp pro backup will work full featured for me that way.

>

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>

>

> "John John (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> If you are asking if you will be able to use a backup utility installed

>> on x64 while you are booted to XP Home the answer is no, you won't be

>> able to use the backup utility installed on XP x64 when you are using XP

>> Home. That would also apply even if the second operating system was

>> also an XP Home version.

>>

>> Other than small self contained programs or programs that do not use the

>> registry at all you cannot use programs on other installations. In

>> order to properly use the program you must install it on the Windows

>> installation that will use it, the necessary registry information will

>> be written when the program is installed, only then will the program be

>> usable.

>>

>> Being that you are a student I don't know about your "funds" situation,

>> but if you can spare a few dollars I think you would be wise to invest

>> in a good backup utility. The Windows backup utility (NTBackUp) is ok

>> for certain things but it has severe limitations. It would be ok and

>> easy to use from one OS to backup the other dormant installation, but

>> when it comes to disaster recovery it isn't the best of tools. By the

>> way, while the backup tool is not installed on XP Home, it is on the

>> Windows cd and you can install it on XP Home. If it isn't on your

>> Windows CD it is available for download on the internet. Also, while

>> the NTBackUp utility can be used on XP Home, it cannot do ASR backups or

>> be used to do ASR restore on the XP Home version.

>>

>> John

>>

>> umwhat wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> > I have been asking questions about the same things I am asking in this

>> > thread

>> > about having backup ready for when I start the computing course I hope

>> > to be

>> > accepted for soon.

>> > The last thing I need to know know and did ask in the other thread but

>> > left

>> > a comment I was asking in htis thread is...

>> >

>> > Will I be able to use Windows Backup in a Windows XP 64Bit Edition

>> > Professional installation in a second harddrive with Windows XP Home

>> > Edition

>> > in the first harddrive and have all the backup features available to

>> > back up

>> > the whole Windows XP harddrive?

>> > My concern is for the backup of work I do for the course? Incremental

>> > backups sounds like a good option for the back ups.

>>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

From the x64 installation you will be able to backup all your drives.

From the XP Home installation using the NTBackUp utility you will be

able to backup all your drives. But you will not be able to use the ASR

feature on the XP Home installation. I see that you talk about Acronis

in your other post, that is a good backup utiliy, you should use it

instead of NTBackUp.

 

umwhat wrote:

> Subject: Backup/Dual Boot XP Home & XP Pro 64Bit...

>

> John, Charlie has answered this part of my questions in the thread I started

> there...and is saying the XP 64Bit Edition Pro Backup Utility will work full

> featured for both harddrives from the XP 64Bit Edition Pro harddrive.

>

> ... but I am getting the impression from your post that will not work

> because of the limited XP Home backup utility. Trying to think logically it

> seems the xp pro backup will work full featured for me that way.

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Thankyou John,

I will download the trial Acronis True Image 11 and use it as Charlie and

you suggest. I am hoping there will not be a time feature that disables what

is done during the trial period. It does not seem there is.

Do you think Acronis can backup to a smaller partitin than the partition it

backs up?

 

But I will not be able to afford to pay for the retail version for a while.

 

I did happen to download a free one day offer of a good looking backup

application but I did not get to activate it and install it, I only activated

it, in the one day. And that during the time I have been asking questions...I

will still look for free versions for a while until I can afford Acronis but

I think but there is so many available, it is going to be a trial...

I have done a backup with Neros old version 1.2.0.65 from Nero 6 but I

doubt that will restore to a smaller partition so I may have to reinstall.

Thats ok.

Thankyou

 

 

 

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> From the x64 installation you will be able to backup all your drives.

> From the XP Home installation using the NTBackUp utility you will be

> able to backup all your drives. But you will not be able to use the ASR

> feature on the XP Home installation. I see that you talk about Acronis

> in your other post, that is a good backup utiliy, you should use it

> instead of NTBackUp.

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > Subject: Backup/Dual Boot XP Home & XP Pro 64Bit...

> >

> > John, Charlie has answered this part of my questions in the thread I started

> > there...and is saying the XP 64Bit Edition Pro Backup Utility will work full

> > featured for both harddrives from the XP 64Bit Edition Pro harddrive.

> >

> > ... but I am getting the impression from your post that will not work

> > because of the limited XP Home backup utility. Trying to think logically it

> > seems the xp pro backup will work full featured for me that way.

> >

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Acronis True Image can compress its backups and image files, it will be

able to backup to a smaller drive but of course there is a limit to the

compression that can be achieved. I have never tried TI trial or

evaluation versions so I cannot tell you what limitations it might have.

 

John

 

umwhat wrote:

> Thankyou John,

> I will download the trial Acronis True Image 11 and use it as Charlie and

> you suggest. I am hoping there will not be a time feature that disables what

> is done during the trial period. It does not seem there is.

> Do you think Acronis can backup to a smaller partitin than the partition it

> backs up?

>

> But I will not be able to afford to pay for the retail version for a while.

>

> I did happen to download a free one day offer of a good looking backup

> application but I did not get to activate it and install it, I only activated

> it, in the one day. And that during the time I have been asking questions...I

> will still look for free versions for a while until I can afford Acronis but

> I think but there is so many available, it is going to be a trial...

> I have done a backup with Neros old version 1.2.0.65 from Nero 6 but I

> doubt that will restore to a smaller partition so I may have to reinstall.

> Thats ok.

> Thankyou

>

>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

It is unlimited. The only requirement is that you enter the license info by

the end of the trial in order to continue use. When I set up a new rig I

download and install the trial and order the retail copy from NewEgg (costs

only half the price on the Acronis site) and simply convert to permanent by

entering the license key that comes in the retail box when my NewEgg

shipment arrives.

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

news:eyxytvT1IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Acronis True Image can compress its backups and image files, it will be

> able to backup to a smaller drive but of course there is a limit to the

> compression that can be achieved. I have never tried TI trial or

> evaluation versions so I cannot tell you what limitations it might have.

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>> Thankyou John,

>> I will download the trial Acronis True Image 11 and use it as Charlie

>> and you suggest. I am hoping there will not be a time feature that

>> disables what is done during the trial period. It does not seem there is.

>> Do you think Acronis can backup to a smaller partitin than the partition

>> it backs up?

>> But I will not be able to afford to pay for the retail version for a

>> while.

>> I did happen to download a free one day offer of a good looking backup

>> application but I did not get to activate it and install it, I only

>> activated it, in the one day. And that during the time I have been asking

>> questions...I will still look for free versions for a while until I can

>> afford Acronis but I think but there is so many available, it is going to

>> be a trial...

>> I have done a backup with Neros old version 1.2.0.65 from Nero 6 but I

>> doubt that will restore to a smaller partition so I may have to

>> reinstall. Thats ok.

>> Thankyou

>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Now I think of it, I can't remember how I actually do it. But even if you

reinstall, your backups are still available.

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:94737F38-640A-4F07-8556-5B89157D20A1@microsoft.com...

> It is unlimited. The only requirement is that you enter the license info

> by the end of the trial in order to continue use. When I set up a new rig

> I download and install the trial and order the retail copy from NewEgg

> (costs only half the price on the Acronis site) and simply convert to

> permanent by entering the license key that comes in the retail box when my

> NewEgg shipment arrives.

>

> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> news:eyxytvT1IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Acronis True Image can compress its backups and image files, it will be

>> able to backup to a smaller drive but of course there is a limit to the

>> compression that can be achieved. I have never tried TI trial or

>> evaluation versions so I cannot tell you what limitations it might have.

>>

>> John

>>

>> umwhat wrote:

>>> Thankyou John,

>>> I will download the trial Acronis True Image 11 and use it as Charlie

>>> and you suggest. I am hoping there will not be a time feature that

>>> disables what is done during the trial period. It does not seem there

>>> is.

>>> Do you think Acronis can backup to a smaller partitin than the

>>> partition it backs up?

>>> But I will not be able to afford to pay for the retail version for a

>>> while.

>>> I did happen to download a free one day offer of a good looking backup

>>> application but I did not get to activate it and install it, I only

>>> activated it, in the one day. And that during the time I have been

>>> asking questions...I will still look for free versions for a while until

>>> I can afford Acronis but I think but there is so many available, it is

>>> going to be a trial...

>>> I have done a backup with Neros old version 1.2.0.65 from Nero 6 but I

>>> doubt that will restore to a smaller partition so I may have to

>>> reinstall. Thats ok.

>>> Thankyou

>>>

>>

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

ok, thats good news, thankyou for the tips, and I shall have a look at NewEgg.

 

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"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Now I think of it, I can't remember how I actually do it. But even if you

> reinstall, your backups are still available.

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:94737F38-640A-4F07-8556-5B89157D20A1@microsoft.com...

> > It is unlimited. The only requirement is that you enter the license info

> > by the end of the trial in order to continue use. When I set up a new rig

> > I download and install the trial and order the retail copy from NewEgg

> > (costs only half the price on the Acronis site) and simply convert to

> > permanent by entering the license key that comes in the retail box when my

> > NewEgg shipment arrives.

> >

> > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> > news:eyxytvT1IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> Acronis True Image can compress its backups and image files, it will be

> >> able to backup to a smaller drive but of course there is a limit to the

> >> compression that can be achieved. I have never tried TI trial or

> >> evaluation versions so I cannot tell you what limitations it might have.

> >>

> >> John

> >>

> >> umwhat wrote:

> >>> Thankyou John,

> >>> I will download the trial Acronis True Image 11 and use it as Charlie

> >>> and you suggest. I am hoping there will not be a time feature that

> >>> disables what is done during the trial period. It does not seem there

> >>> is.

> >>> Do you think Acronis can backup to a smaller partitin than the

> >>> partition it backs up?

> >>> But I will not be able to afford to pay for the retail version for a

> >>> while.

> >>> I did happen to download a free one day offer of a good looking backup

> >>> application but I did not get to activate it and install it, I only

> >>> activated it, in the one day. And that during the time I have been

> >>> asking questions...I will still look for free versions for a while until

> >>> I can afford Acronis but I think but there is so many available, it is

> >>> going to be a trial...

> >>> I have done a backup with Neros old version 1.2.0.65 from Nero 6 but I

> >>> doubt that will restore to a smaller partition so I may have to

> >>> reinstall. Thats ok.

> >>> Thankyou

> >>>

> >>

> >

>

[Guest umwhat]

Re: XP 64Bit installation USB devices

 

Hi John,

In this case there is a GUI interface installation setup which installs

into Windows. It took me a few days to work this out but installed the

drivers that way into Windows then installed the card with the second

harddrive attached and and rebooted and the harddrive now works ok.

Thankyou

 

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"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> Yes, absolutely. Find a suitable card and supply the drivers to the

> setup program during the installation (use F6 and have the drivers on a

> floppy diskette).

>

> John

>

> umwhat wrote:

>

> > Will Windows 64Bit Edition install onto a second harddrive if the second

> > harddrive is connected to an addon PCI card that has a Sata connector on it?

> > Still, the card would need to be 64 bit compatible...the card I saw says it

> > for 32bit but does not mention 64 bit.

> >

>