removing win98 from dual boot setup

December 15, 2007

Fiesta

I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

1-Two hard drives

2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would then use the freed up drive for general storage.

What must I do in order to accomplish this?

December 15, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

"murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message

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Fiesta

I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

1-Two hard drives

2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my only

OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would then use

the freed up drive for general storage.

What must I do in order to accomplish this?

You MUST leave your C: drive in place as that is where your boot files

reside...

plus removing it would change your win2k drive letter and your system would

not function.

All you really need to do is remove the win98 reference in boot.ini

and then delete anything you do not need on your C: drive that's in a folder

What MUST remain on the C: drive root would be

boot.ini

ntdetect.com

ntldr

plus your page file if it's already there...

though that can be moved *from within the contol panel* to your D: drive

if so desired

December 15, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

Fiesta

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December 15, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

FiestaTry this:

1. Copy the three hidden Win2000 boot files from C:\ to D:\

- c:\ntldr

- c:\ntdetect.com

- c:\boot.ini

2. Unhide and edit d:\boot.ini.

- Remove the Win98 reference.

- Modify the lines "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT= . . ." to rdisk(0)

3. Disconnect the Win98 disk.

4. Make the Win2000 disk the primary master disk.

5. Boot the machine with a Win98 boot disk from http://www.bootdisk.com.

6. Run this command: fdisk /mbr

7. Run fdisk.exe and mark the Win2000 partition active.

8. Boot the machine normally.

Note that the Windows system drive letter will still be D:

even though this partition is the one and only partition on

the disk. You cannot change this.

It is possible that Windows will boot up but that it will

continuously cycle through the logon process. Post again

if this happens. Fixing this problem would be greatly

facilitated if you had another Win2000/XP machine with a

tried and proven network connection to the Win2000 PC.

"murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message news:4763fcef$0$31127$607ed4bc@cv.net...

I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

1-Two hard drives

2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would then use the freed up drive for general storage.

What must I do in order to accomplish this?

December 15, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

Also make sure that the partition is a primary not extended partition before

beginning.

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December 15, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Also make sure that the partition is a primary not extended partition

> before beginning.

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

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Good point - I overlooked this one.

December 15, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

murray wrote:

> I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

> 1-Two hard drives

> 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

> 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

> I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my

> only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would

> then use the freed up drive for general storage.

> What must I do in order to accomplish this?

>

There is no easy nor quick way of doing this. If the installation

disks and files for all of the applications are still available, then

do a new, clean install of Windows 2000 to Drive C. This frees up

Drive D for general storage.

The otherwise alternative is to follow Philo's suggestion. After

removing Windows 98 from Drive C, then it can be used for storage

(instead of D).

Another alternative would be to retain the dual-boot and use an

external, USB drive for storage. There might come that rare occasion

when one might have wished at keeping the dual-boot in existence.

December 16, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

murray wrote:

>

> I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

> 1-Two hard drives

> 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

> 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

> I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my

> only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would

> then use the freed up drive for general storage.

> What must I do in order to accomplish this?

>

1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same

or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.

2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.

That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on

the Win98 HD.

No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.

Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what you

need from the original.

Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD, keeping

the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.

Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working HD.

When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can become a

spare BACKUP HD.

December 16, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

i haven't tried this myself but....

is it possible to swap the master / slave pins on each drive

around and to make the win2k drive "master" or "C" drive?

then maybe try doing a "ERD" (?) and "repair" the win2k drive's

bootsector settings etc. so it start's up normally on bootup?

that could make your win2k drive the new "C" startup drive

and keep all your existing win2k files intact........and then

you could leave your old win98 drive as slave/storage etc....

dunno if this will work but making a backup of everything first

before you fart around, would be a smart move.....

my 2 cents

regards

Harry

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message

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> murray wrote:

>

> >

> > I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

> > 1-Two hard drives

> > 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

> > 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

> > I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my

> > only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would

> > then use the freed up drive for general storage.

> > What must I do in order to accomplish this?

> >

> 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same

> or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.

> 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.

> That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on

> the Win98 HD.

> No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.

> Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what you

> need from the original.

> Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD, keeping

> the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.

> Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working HD.

> When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can become a

> spare BACKUP HD.

>

December 16, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

dunno if this will work but...........

couldn't you swap the master/slave pins around on the 2 disks

to make win2k the master and win98 the slave....

then maybe do an "ERD" (?) to repair the win2k setup (bootsector)

so that it boots normally.......

this could let you keep all your win2k stuff and let you keep the win98

disk as slave/storage and possibly backup disk in case the other

stuffs up.

making a backup of everything before you fart around, would also

be a smart move.....

my 2 cents

regards

Harry

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message

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> murray wrote:

>

> >

> > I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

> > 1-Two hard drives

> > 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

> > 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

> > I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my

> > only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would

> > then use the freed up drive for general storage.

> > What must I do in order to accomplish this?

> >

> 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same

> or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.

> 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.

> That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on

> the Win98 HD.

> No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.

> Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what you

> need from the original.

> Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD, keeping

> the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.

> Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working HD.

> When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can become a

> spare BACKUP HD.

>

December 16, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com>, the decrepit-bummer and flagrant

huckle who likes adulterous non-orthogenic sex with macaws, and whose

partner is a charity girl with a tight prick pit, wrote in

<13m9brp512mmj7e@corp.supernews.com>:

> murray wrote:

>

>> I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

>> 1-Two hard drives

>> 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

>> 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

>> I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my

>> only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would

>> then use the freed up drive for general storage.

>> What must I do in order to accomplish this?

> 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same or

> larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.

> 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.

> That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on the

> Win98 HD.

> No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.

Does you definition of "etcetera" discount windows updates?

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December 17, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

Master/slave settings may not be relevant if "CS" or chip select was

used for the HD settings.

The real problem is how win2k referenced the hard drives. If win2k

thought it was on the "d" drive (which is most likely the case), then

the registry will be full of path strings beginning with "d:\" and the

paths will point to non-existent files once the win98 HD is removed

from the system and the second HD becomes the boot drive, even if the

boot files are fixed properly (which might work to get win2k booted).

A repair install might get the OS working, but the other installed

programs may be lost as to where they are located on the HD, further,

the start menu will be full of old shortcuts that will point to the

wrong drive (the "d" drive instead of the "c" drive). The registry

will have countless references to the "d" drive path, and other

programs may also be lost/whacked and require reinstallation.

Perhaps the best approach if one wants to "save" the old win2k setup

is to merely edit the boot.ini file and remove the win98 reference

lines, then most all files on the win98 HD can be deleted (with the

exception of any files in the root directory). This will result in a

requirement that the win98 HD cannot be removed from the system as it

will be critical for booting.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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"hmmmmmm" <someone@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

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| dunno if this will work but...........

|

| couldn't you swap the master/slave pins around on the 2 disks

| to make win2k the master and win98 the slave....

|

| then maybe do an "ERD" (?) to repair the win2k setup (bootsector)

| so that it boots normally.......

|

| this could let you keep all your win2k stuff and let you keep the

win98

| disk as slave/storage and possibly backup disk in case the other

| stuffs up.

|

| making a backup of everything before you fart around, would also

| be a smart move.....

|

| my 2 cents

|

| regards

|

| Harry

|

| "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message

| news:13m9brp512mmj7e@corp.supernews.com...

| > murray wrote:

| >

| > >

| > > I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:

| > > 1-Two hard drives

| > > 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed

| > > 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed

| > > I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows

2000 my

| > > only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I

would

| > > then use the freed up drive for general storage.

| > > What must I do in order to accomplish this?

| > >

| > 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD,

same

| > or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.

| > 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.

| > That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files

are on

| > the Win98 HD.

| > No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.

| > Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what

you

| > need from the original.

| > Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD,

keeping

| > the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.

| > Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working

HD.

| > When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can

become a

| > spare BACKUP HD.

| >

|

December 17, 2007

Re: removing win98 from dual boot setup

"Kyle" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message

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> Master/slave settings may not be relevant if "CS" or chip select was

> used for the HD settings.

>

> The real problem is how win2k referenced the hard drives. If win2k

> thought it was on the "d" drive (which is most likely the case), then

> the registry will be full of path strings beginning with "d:\" and the

> paths will point to non-existent files once the win98 HD is removed

> from the system and the second HD becomes the boot drive, even if the

> boot files are fixed properly (which might work to get win2k booted).

> A repair install might get the OS working, but the other installed

> programs may be lost as to where they are located on the HD, further,

> the start menu will be full of old shortcuts that will point to the

> wrong drive (the "d" drive instead of the "c" drive). The registry

> will have countless references to the "d" drive path, and other

> programs may also be lost/whacked and require reinstallation.

>

Indeed, and that's why the drive letter D: needs to be preserved.

This can easily be achieved, even if the Win98 disk is removed

and the Win2000 disk is the only disk in the system.

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